I have a Plenty of Fish profile. I have it for fun. I basically email girls with something designed to get them angry and then see if I can turn it around. Often I can. My only rule is - if they message me, no matter what they say, I must take it as an IOI and reply.
It's all about frame control - I want to keep my argument solid while justifying, but not over justifying. What follows is an example - this girl's profile basically said 'I am hot as you can see from my picture, that's all I can be bothered to type and that's all you need to know, now try and impress me'.
Right.
| Original Message YOU sent on 8/31/2010 8:03:18 AM
I read your profile and it made me
dislike you. You're probably OK in
real life but it's not doing you
any favours. And if I think that,
a lot of other men may as well.
And it may be the ones you want.
I don't mean to offend, just
thought I'd let you know. |
bahahahahha
You're a ****ing riot. I've thoroughly enjoyed your self-entitled representation of the kind of man I might go for. Be assured, you
aren't.
If you disliked me so much why send me a message?
At your age, you should be actively pursuing the girls you DO like.
peace
| Original Message YOU sent on 8/31/2010 8:39:36 AM
I was browsing, saw you, read your profile and just thought it was
a shame, that's all. You ruined a nice smile.
Successful guys have choice and pretty faces are common. Your
profile might not be enough and I am sure there is more to you. |
My profile is not me.
I am more than enough.
Thank you for enforcing a stereotype that I have been trying to
fight with everything I've done in life.
Please never write back.
| Original Message YOU sent on 9/1/2010 8:02:54 AM
All I am trying to do is help you out. There is no other motive.
I am not interested in dating you based on your profile (and now
on your resulting reactions). You put yourself below all the
women I usually date who are always beautiful AND funny, warm and
talented.
And yet I am a tall, bi lingual guy and I even own a shaggy dog.
I own my own company in the music industry, I travel the world
working on major film projects, I have houses in Miami and
Barcelona and I have more than enough evidence to suggest I am
the kind of guy women like to be around - I can guarantee you I
am, and by your own admission, EXACTLY what you're looking for
and you lost me in 10 seconds.
Your anger at me and rationale for not liking me are based purely
on the fact that I rejected you and you seemingly think I was
being unfair.
If you don't want to continue this discussion all you have to do
is not write back. I will you all the best in the future. You are
yet a child, but as you mature you'll probably see that I was
right. A pretty face and a sour attitude will attract men, but
not the guys for whom you need to bit that little bit more. |
I am simply continuing this discussion because I'm intrigued and
because the social experiment we're conducting is unique. Never
again will I have a guy tell me I "lost" him after reading a few
of the sentences I wrote on a silly website.
I'm glad you have a million houses. Go you!
I have my own reasons for writing what I did and for acting the
way I do. You know nothing about my life.
I am young and I am beautiful and I am incredibly talented. I've
finished my undergrad at an ivy league school already and was
given a scholarship to come here for a pre grad course. In the
meantime I have been working for a consulting firm in Toronto for
the past year and the work I do gives R&D firms enough money to
promote entrepreneurial growth in my own country. My mother lost
her job to outsourcing so I actively work to strengthen the
business infrastructure at home. You have no right to talk to me
the way you do. I'm also not attracted to you.
I've been hurt, I have hurt and I want to have fun now.
I suggest you do the same
| Original Message YOU sent on 9/1/2010 8:42:23 AM
That's what you should put in your profile. |
ugh.
what's your shaggy dog's name? |
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| Original Message YOU sent on 9/1/2010 9:22:19 AM
Plato. My dad was not only the greatest single influence on my
life, he was also a philosophy lecturer. We were talking about
philosophy while I was still reading the Beano (British weekly
comic book).I am at heart my father's son. Somewhere inside me,
and not so deeply, there is a sandal wearing, bearded
bespectacled teacher.
My last girlfriend. Now she was gorgeous. If you saw a photo of
her you'd understand where I am coming from. Wherever we went,
every head turned. She has the body of the Goddess of Sex and the
face of the Goddess of Beauty (Greek not Roman). She had her pick
of men. She is now dating the owner of Spotify, a billionaire who
can have anyone.
So when guys like me see a profile saying 'I am beautiful and
that's all you need to know ' - our reaction is 'well if ALL you
have to offer is your looks then, I'll just look elsewhere
because looks is only the starting point'. It's like selling a
car based only on the fact it has a stereo. Yeah... and?
I swear if your profile was a little more like what you just sent
to me, maybe a little less hubris, I would have loved it. Someone
I could converse with as well as fck. And the bit about getting
hurt and wanting to have fun sparked in me the warm and urgent
male desire to protect (women/children). Pretty good.
But it's your life. Just tell me to go **** myself. |
Plato is the philosopher I focused on for my ancient philosophy
minor. I have a specialist degree in Literary criticism: french,
russian, british. I've been a student of Plato's since I was 13.
I began the Republic then and finished it in my second year of
uni. He's a monument and a giant. I don't suspect I'll ever
finish understanding his work.
Funny you should say that; my dad was my main influence as well
as I'm also very much a daddy's girl. I knew of Plato's Symposium
since I was 7 having had my dad tell me about these ancient human
creatures who were welded together and then separated by the
furious gods and cut up into the individual, lonely pieces that
comprise our bodies today. He would tell me that love comes into
being from loss, not from gain. Our love making is this temporary
reminder of how we used to live. Yes, it's all very romantic and
to a 7 year old little girl on a grimy eastern european street
car (I was born and bred in Romania) my father became Homer and I
became....enchanted with philosophy and literature. Those were
the only times I saw my dad; my parents were divorced so these
bits of story telling were all I would get for weeks.
I love dogs. I can't walk past a stray or even an owned dog
without wanting to make it my own. I have gone so far today
actually as to buy a homeless man's stray some food. I have a
bleeding heart and I hate myself for it. I'm quirky and silly and
childish and I'm sorry I said mean things to you. It's so unlike
me. This site is unlike me. You are rather cute.
Be well,
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